A269-共產主義vs社會主義 (上) JCW, 2009/04/18.版權所有.
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(1). "未來世界的政治主張" 原稿,請看:https://city.udn.com/61613/forum 世聯WodFed城市
(2). "未來世界的政治主張" 整理後稿件,請看:http://blog.udn.com/jcwang00/article 世聯城的部落格
(3). 說笑雜項,請看:http://blog.udn.com/jctheoldman 用膝蓋想部落格
(4). 接龍創作,請看:http://blog.udn.com/JC00 外太空的009部落格
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二十世紀,世界上有兩個共產主義國家 (見Soviet Union-Wikipedia中文 和 People's Republic of China-Wikipedia中文);一個是蘇聯(USSR,Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,1922-1991),另一個是中華人民共和國(PROC,People's Republic Of China,1949-)。USSR由它的共產黨(Communist Party「Bolsheviks」中文.[8]) 執政,PROC則由中國共產黨(CCP,Communist Party of China中文) 執政。這是眾所週知的事。但是,為何共產黨執政的國家要聲稱是實行社會主義的國家呢?假使拿這個問題去問CCP人士,我猜想,最佳答案可能是 "共產黨主張實行共產主義,馬克斯說世界將從資本主義、經過社會主義為中間過程、而進入共產主義,我們現在正在這中間過程、推行社會主義之中;我們最後的目標是共產主義"。那末,二十世紀中期CCP在大陸所實行的應該還不是共產,而是為共產舖路的一種社會主義手段嚕;對不對?……假使 "對",那末,莫非共義主義所主張的階級鬥爭等等還在前途等著;我們中華人民的前途還有的是坦白、公審、三反、五反、清算、鬥爭、下放、勞改等等……要進入共產主義的境界會有那麼多的手段等著我人嗎?
我的 "未來世界的政治主張" 認為我人既要揚棄絕對的共產主義,也不容無節制的資本主義,而要以隨時、隨機調節、修正的社會主義為 "政治經濟Political economy中文 " 的政策……此言錯了嗎?
這是一個非常重要的論題;必須找資料來辯明:
(1)★★★ Communism Simplified、http://www.geocities.com/inyukun/communism.html - 這是一篇供八年級教學用的資料;美國教育的八年級相當於我們的初中二年或三年級(見High School中文第21節United States)。我同胞見之有何感想?何况此文著者還說…… "Author's Note(著者按): This text is intended to be one or two steps removed from over-simplification(本文旨在移除太過簡化的一、兩個階段). The target audience is an eighth grade class(以八年級程度的聽者為目標對象). We will discuss the philosophical idealism vs. the practical and historical application of communism as seen in one or two countries(文中將論及,某一兩個邦國行使共產主義的哲學理念與相對的歷史和實際情形). We will also broach dialectical materialism and historical materialism in very simplified terms(並將簡近的論及辯証唯物主義Dialectical materialism中文 及歷史唯物主義Historical materialism中文)。
☆ Pre-Marxism - It is important to note two things before discussing Marxism/Communism (or even Socialism).
1. Marx was not alone in devising a communist philosophy, nor was he even the first. Communist ideologies had existed in France and other European countries for more than 100 years before Marx. Certainly the root concept of communal living had been around for millennia. Marx's Communist Manifesto was, however, the most comprehensive document on the subject, replete with the historical and philosophical foundations necessary to be accepted, even grudgingly as it was, by the rest of the world.
2. Marx, like all communists of his time, was responding to what he truly believed to be an evil philosophy – the philosophy of capitalism. Marx lived through the industrial revolution of the mid-1800s, an age filled with every conceivable mistake that could be made in the name of capitalism. Slavery, child labor, predatory monopolies, harmful products and lethal work places are but a few of the crimes against humanity that Marx lived to see. In his mind, Marx truly desired to help humanity, and communism – even as brutal as he knew it would be – seemed a small price to pay to escape capitalism.
☆ Communist Manifesto - Marx's most famous work on the subject of communism was his Communist Manifesto. In it, he gave reasons why the world should reject of all other governments and economic systems (especially capitalism), and why the entire world should become communist. He also explains how a communist government should be started and maintained.
☆ Communist Manifesto on Capitalism - Marx did not just hate capitalism for all of the evils that can spring from it; he hated the basic philosophy behind capitalism. This is important, because Marx could not accept any form of capitalism, even if all of the criminal externalities (results) could be removed completely.
Capitalism is based on the idea that someone risks his or her money and energy to start a business. Within this business, the owner hires other people to perform labor that earns money (profit) for the company and for the owner. In (Only in) modern capitalism, labor is seen as something to be rented out to the highest bidder. Workers are free to negotiate wages, change employers or even start their own businesses.
Marx defined capitalism a bit differently because of his particular view of labor. He equated labor with ownership of one’s own body. To accept wages in exchange for labor was to sell oneself into a form of slavery. He also believed profits were stolen money that belonged to the workers who made the products and performed the services for the business. Benefiting from another person's labor (whether a slave or an employee) was the worst kind of evil, Marx said.
(Take care to note the reason Marx hated capitalism. This same problem is also found in communism. One must wonder if Marx would have hated his own form of government too, if he had lived to see it in practice.)
☆ Communist Manifesto on Religion - Marx's most famous quote is not about his hatred of capitalism, but about his hatred of religion. “Religion is the opiate of the people,” he said, equating religion with the most addictive and deadly drugs of his time. Marx wanted religion abolished, and he made forced atheism a formal part of communism.
Some experts argue that all people have an inherent need for spirituality, and without the option of religion, they may become desperate for a belief in something greater than themselves. Communism has rejected religion, but has still tried to tap into the human need for spirituality. In a way, they have created a new religion called Deification of the State. Infamous communists like Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong used this new kind of religion to make people believe they were virtual gods. The people of their countries were encourage (or forced, in some cases) to worship them. Ironically, by rejecting religion, communism has become a kind of theocracy.
☆ Communism: Government and Economics - Democracy is a government system, not an economic system; to function completely, democracy has to incorporate an economic system like capitalism or socialism. Unlike democracy, communism is both a government system and an economic system. It exists on the extreme left of both the political and economic spectra.
Where capitalism encourages private (personal) ownership of all property, communism forbids it. In communism, the collective public should own all property together, and government should organize and control all manufacturing and employment.
☆ PHASES OF COMMUNISM:The Ideal vs the Practical
In his Communist Manifest, Marx said communism would happen in three phases:
1. Bloody Revolution: In order to create this new society, the believers of communism would have to destroy the existing government. While the term Bloody might seem an unnecessary description, Marx truly believed that a revolution would require a violent destruction of all previous systems in order to set a proper stage for the second phase.
2. Dictatorship of the Proletariat: One person (a dictator) or a few elite people (an oligarchy) would have to take absolute power to remove or destroy every person that conflicted with communism. Ideas about political and economic freedoms associated with democracy or capitalism had to be destroyed. Marx recommended that this be done with "re-education" of the Proletariat (common people) through propaganda. But Marx went on to say that people who resisted the "re-education" and insisted on religious, democratic or capitalistic freedoms should be imprisoned, tortured or even killed.
Under phase two of communist systems, all of the freedoms that many western countries take for granted are non-existent. Communist governments control every aspect of life, including what jobs people have, what level of education they receive, where they live, what items they can purchase, who they can marry, how many children they can have, and even whether they live or die.
For reasons explained in phase three, no communist nation has ever moved beyond phase two (or what we call 'practical' communism). People in communist systems, then, live in a constant state of oppression and tyranny, always fearful about saying the wrong thing or angering a government official. Approximately 100 million people have been murdered under communist oppression, in many cases for no crime other than saying a few words.
3. Egalitarian Utopia: Marx said that when all of the non-communists were destroyed or removed, the government could release its power, allowing every person to be completely equal, both politically and economically. The word egalitarian refers to this perfect equality. Utopia, of course, refers to Plato's idea of a political paradise. Marx hoped the world would become a perfect (ideal) communist paradise, filled with people who were completely equal and who would not be able to abuse others or be abused by others.
This has never happened in any of the dozens of countries that have gone to communist systems. According to philosopher George Orwell, it will never happen for the simple reason that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Orwell pointed out that once a person has all the power humanly possible – and has even in some cases been called a god – that person can never give up the power and agree to a position among the common people, working as they work, and living as they live in relative poverty. (Orwell’s novel, Animal Farm, uses an allegory of Russia's history to examine this idea further.)
There are other problems with this perfect society, also. Even if the leaders could release their power, how would the world stop others from trying to grab that power? How can we trust an entire world of people to live peacefully without law or a justice system? How can we show people the value of education or hard work if there are no benefits tied to them? How can we organize our world to be sure food and supplies go where they are needed? As the world currently exists, we would not be able to do any of these; without some kind of government, there is only anarchy.
☆ Internal Conflict - What Marx has accidentally created would seem to be his worst nightmare. Everything he most hated about capitalism is also a part of practical communism. When Marx criticized capitalism, he especially liked to point out that capitalism was supposed put an end to the elite classes and abuses of the previous system (feudalism), and yet it had created a new elite class and allowed the same abuses to continue. Marx called this an Internal Conflict. Marx did not live to see this term applied to his own system of government, but it most definitely does apply:
Marx hated capitalism because it… Falsely promised an end to abuses of the previous system (Feudalism) Created an elite class of people (wealthy individuals) Turned the working classes into virtual slaves Allowed the elite to be greedy and abuse their power Ignored its Internal Conflict Did not care that people were dying from unsafe products and work-places | Communism has… Falsely promised an end to the abuses of the previous system (Capitalism) Created an elite class of people (government officials) Turned the working classes into virtual slaves Allowed the elite to be greedy and abuse their power Ignored its Internal Conflict Deliberately killed millions of people for believing in religious, political or economic freedom |
☆ Socialism - Capitalism and communism are both obviously flawed systems. Somehow, we need to take the best parts of both systems and careful avoid the worst parts. Many countries, including the USA, have decided that we can find a compromise between the systems. We can have the freedom of democracy and capitalism, but we give the government a little more power to keep people safe and make businesses act fairly. This compromise between democracy/capitalism and communism is called socialism.
Socialism can be difficult to explain, because many kinds of socialism exist.
Communist countries, like China, often call themselves socialist countries. True enough, China has added a tiny bit of capitalism to its communist system, so it is considered an "extreme" form of socialism. The only people who can start businesses in China, however, have to receive special permission from the government. This means that people who are good friends with government officials, or who know the right person to bribe, are able to start businesses, but the average person cannot. The government of China can also choose to nationalize a business (take it away from the owner) at any time, for any reason.
The USA has a form of socialism that is mostly capitalistic and democratic. Government control is limited by the Constitution, so America is considered to have a very "mild" form of socialism. In America, anyone can get a business license and start a business. The government insists that businesses pay taxes, pay workers a minimum wage, and maintain safe products and work-places, but few other restrictions exist. The government cannot take the business away from the owner unless it has an extreme reason to do so, and even then it must prove in court that it has acted constitutionally.
In an imperfect world, there can never be a perfect government of any type, not even a perfect balance of socialism. Corporations and businesses often find new ways to abuse the freedoms in this country, and yet we have to find ways to fix these problems without sacrificing too much of our freedom. Our solutions need to be careful and limited, so that our government does not become even more abusive than our corporations.
(2)★★★ Communism vs. Socialism (按: WikiVS - WikiVS是專作比對的維基網站)。
Communism - Communism is a socioeconomic structure that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian(人皆平等的), classless, stateless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general.
Socialism - Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian (人皆平等的) society.
(3)★★★ Socialism vs. Communism http://www.romm.org/soc_com.html - Commentary about economics and politics ... The Difference Between Socialism and Communism and the cognitive dissonance created by Lenin and Reagan……
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老友粉2009/04/23 17:59的回應:"综合看中国,会更好一些"
现阶段社会主义国家还是不少的,中国、越南、委内端拉、古巴、摩尔多瓦、尼泊尔等,他们的实践和碰到的挫折并不比那个资本主义国家少。失败的案例,前苏联和东欧不少社会主义国家都转向了,但也不排除转回来的可能。 1949到现在中国实践了60年,与资本主义国家相比,也只能说走了别人的一小段路,中国社会主义的发展确实经历过你所为的痛苦阶段,改革开放三十年,给中国特色社会主义给人民带来了信心,这点在经济危机中得到了最好的体现,对于社会主义初阶段的中国来说,还需努力,相信到了建国一百年,中国会成为一个好的案例。资本主义与共产主义之争,有可能就象邓小平讲的一样,不管你是黑猫白猫,抓到老鼠就是好猫。
JCW的回覆:多謝回應,心想你一定是大陸的同胞;果然。
(1).社會主義國家的多少,沒相干。
(2).資本主義國家是在面臨問題;這也是我在談論 "未來世界的政治主張" 之原因。
(3).大陸從鄧先生之後中國經濟起飛;我雖住在台灣,我是華人,我也高興。
(4).但那是不是從共產轉向部分資本主義呢?我稱之為 "社會主義";轉向之前才真正的是共產主義。
(5).這也是我要暸解共產vs社會主義的主因。
由衷歡迎你仔細暸解我的思想和主張;那是前所未有而不偏任何方向,也不帶兩岸紅、藍和綠三種顏色的。
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政治的主義不在於哪一種好'哪一種壞 而在於人民能否自由選擇 如果拿著槍桿子壓迫人民 如果用政治權力大玩陰謀'陽謀 就如同陳水扁與毛澤東 都是歷史罪人
知命天師 <><> />> 知命天師2009/04/24 21:25的回應 "自由主義"
JCW的回覆:多謝回應。所以有云 "人的最大的敵人就是自己"。天師可以訓誨世人:
人,須注意控制自己的 "人性"。 我只能提供另一種選擇。
=== 待續 ===
- 2樓.2009/04/24 21:25自由主義
政治的主義不在於哪一種好'哪一種壞
而在於人民能否自由選擇
如果拿著槍桿子壓迫人民
如果用政治權力大玩陰謀'陽謀
就如同陳水扁與毛澤東
都是歷史罪人
多謝回應,已接入原文。 王老頭 於 2009/04/25 13:13回覆 - 1樓.2009/04/23 17:59综合看中国,会更好一些
现阶段社会主义国家还是不少的,中国、越南、委内端拉、古巴、摩尔多瓦、尼泊尔等,他们的实践和碰到的挫折并不比那个资本主义国家少。失败的案例,前苏联和东欧不少社会主义国家都转向了,但也不排除转回来的可能。
1949到现在中国实践了60年,与资本主义国家相比,也只能说走了别人的一小段路,中国社会主义的发展确实经历过你所为的痛苦阶段,改革开放三十年,给中国特色社会主义给人民带来了信心,这点在经济危机中得到了最好的体现,对于社会主义初阶段的中国来说,还需努力,相信到了建国一百年,中国会成为一个好的案例。资本主义与共产主义之争,有可能就象邓小平讲的一样,不管你是黑猫白猫,抓到老鼠就是好猫。
JCW的回覆:多謝回應,心想你一定是大陸的同胞;果然。(1).社會主義國家的多少,沒相干。
(2).資本主義國家是在面臨問題;這也是我在談論 "未來世界的政治主張" 之原因。
(3).大陸從鄧先生之後中國經濟起飛;我雖住在台灣,我是華人,我也高興。
(4).但那是不是從共產轉向部分資本主義呢?我稱之為 "社會主義";轉向之前才真正的是共產主義。
(5).這也是我要暸解共產vs社會主義的主因。
由衷歡迎你仔細暸解我的思想和主張;那是前所未有而不偏任何方向,也不帶兩岸紅、藍和綠三種顏色的。
★★★請注意:上述來示與回覆業已錄入主文。
王老頭 於 2009/04/23 20:40回覆