The CIA's Questioning Worked
國會議員的反應，民主黨Nancy Pelosi一開始當然很生氣，說這件事需要組真相委員會來調查，可是同黨的Harry Reid竟然說不用了。同時，共和黨John Boehner說，911之後，許多反恐的作為都是兩黨共同為之，Pelosi和其他民主黨領袖不但早在2002年就知道這些刑求手段，而且還支持。然後昨天Pelosi又改口說，布希政府的確向她提過刑求手段，只是沒跟她說什麼時候開始用，而且她只是“被通知，沒人問她的意見“。當然有人說她只是在找藉口。
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- 18樓. 小點兒2009/05/02 01:30Sean Hannity
em.... Lets not bring talk show hosts in to this. I trust their opinions as far as I can throw them.. not too far.. but when Finals are over I will go back read the blog posts....... Thank you....
You are considered as a possible "rightwing extremist" by DHS as a Tea Party supporter. Welcome to the right wing club and enjoy your vote in action.
阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/05/06 13:18回覆I was trying to give you an example inconsistent with your statement: "Reagonomics... but from all of the talks that I have heard from it.. such as radio talk shows...many liberals and conservatives don't think highly of it."
I like truth and good logic. I don't abandon any opinion because the person who said it. Hannity says things sometimes I agree, but not always. I make my own independent judgment, and that's what everybody should do.
阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/05/02 12:12回覆
- 17樓. 小點兒2009/04/30 13:38You are so cynical
I supposed you have some more years on me, so I respect your opinion. But I am optimistic. I think all of this well all work itself out at the end.
I regret voting for obama because I don't see change domestically.. yet... I felt that he is just following Bush and Clinton's path... However, I think on foreign issues, so far he is doing a pretty good job....
I am one of those people that doesn't qualify for Medicaid and can't afford a health insurance and it sucks. I like universal health coverage.. I think it will work! I don't have proof but it would be great if it did...
As for the people who works hard for their money... Obama said he wants to tax the rich.. i.e those people who makes more than 200,000 a year and that is probably only 10% of the population.. I would assume majority of them are.. atheletes, stars and people that inherit their family business and money.. i.e Paris Hilton (god I hate her)
But for us poor folks, what happens when there is no one that can help us?
I think american society is structured very differently from Chinese society where we can always find help with loyal friends and definitely family. But here I see that family sometimes won't help other family members out... and friends turn on you because of money. Its sad!!
What happens to those people who has no one that can help them to get on their feets?
I didn't grow up in U.S in the era of Reagonomics... but from all of the talks that I have heard from it.. such as radio talk shows...many liberals and conservatives don't think highly of it.. do you know why? A lot of people say that it was the worst mistake that Reagan ever made.... *shrug*
P.S did I emphasize enought tha I love George Carlin....?
Thanks for respecting my opinion but you don't really have to. I make mistakes often. I would recommend respect truth, and any logic that does make sense.
Before getting to my answers, I have some reading assignments for you. Just to help our discussion:
Here is response from your reply:
All of this will work it self out.. HOW?
I still don't get your answer: What was the "way things work in Washington" that you did not like that made you vote Obama? Why were you proven wrong?
Bill Clinton signed Community Reinvestment Act that forced banks to make cheap loans to poor people, that later became root cause of this financial crisis. Bush tried to correct it in 2004 but was rejected by Democrats controlled congress. Obama will make more loans to people like Acorn, 85 billion is already allocated, to be paid by people like your children and grand children. So he is following Clinton's path, not Bush's.
If you can't afford insurance, that means, you need cash, and guess what? You gotta earn it! If you use your vote to get that cash, that means you are not voting for a leader. You vote for cash, and that's not voting. Although many people voted Obama for the very same reason, but that's just dead wrong. This government is make everybody depending on government, not people themselves.
Tax the rich means solialism. Paris earned that money, no matter how, that's her money. You can't just take it from her. Most people in Obama's high income category are those who work very hard and achieve, including small business owners. The new tax law will stop those business from creating new jobs. Because all small business will do all they can to make less than 250000 per year.
People who don't have money need to find a job have to use charity first, then friends and relatives. Maybe government can come in and help them find a job. But can't just give them freebees. If so, who will want to work? Almost like you are an idiot if you work hard. The best deal is you sit there and do nothing. I agree people should help each other, and I donate a lot of $$ each year, volunteer hours in building new house for poor people thru habitat for humanity. I think I am a very good man, BUT that's totally voluntary, can't be mandatory.
Reagon believes in people, not government, that I totally agree. Sean Hannity said in tea party that he is "Reagan conservative", and people and Atlanta were cheering. What did Reagan do wrong? People who do not like Reagan are those believe in government, not people, like most Democrats. You want to stimulate economics, you just have to let people keep what they earn.
Yeah you said you love love love Carlin. I get it. Hope he's a democrat so you can wear your T-shirt. Cynical- I think I just try not to be gullible.
阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/05/01 12:25回覆
- 16樓. 小點兒2009/04/29 23:25Response
I voted for Obama was because I thought he could bring a change of attitude and the way things work in Washington. Of course, I have been proven wrong. I do believe in Universal Healthcare, but not free. I was thinking more along the lines of Universal Insurance Coverage, where health insurance is affordable.
As for college tuition, Of course I want it for free. Is it realistic? No.
But, I am lucky that I go to a local University that has a pretty good engineering program and I only pay 2500 a semester. I think education is a priviledge not a right.
Yes I have heard of Marxism, because that is what Socialism is based on. I understand that Obama is pushing towards a more socialist society. Honestly, I am ok with implementing certain socialist element into our government. I think everyone can benefit from it. But, to be realistic, I probably won't be saying this 10 years from now when I am making more than 100,000 a year.
As for the housing crisis, I don't believe that people should buy what they can't afford. But, maybe I am being way too idealistic, but shouldn't we help those people who has lost their jobs?
What I have noticed here in Albuquerque, is that people are selling their housees because they can't afford it. But the Apartment Complexes are raising their prices to target these families and people. Of course, it is the principle of supply and demand, but people got rid of their house because they can't afford it, now apartments are raising the rent price, how are they going to survive? on the streets? I don't know if there is a solution for them. Government intervention seems like a good way to go for now. Until these people get back on their feets. What do you think?
P.S I know you disagree with me. But I enjoy your writing and your insights.
What was the "way things work in Washington" that you did not like that made you vote Obama? Why were you proven wrong? Do you regret that you voted him?
For "Way things work in Washington", my answer is it's getting a lot worse. USA becomes liberal supermajority: Whitehouse, Senate and the House are all dominated by democrats, so they can almost pass anything on their agenda, including "tattoo removal" in "economic stimulus package". Obama yesterday said "he does not want rubber stamp". Yeah right. Like I would expect him to say "it's all my stamps now".
You like affordable Health insurance, but we all know medicare in USA is super expensive. So who is going to pay for the difference? the "evil rich"? that means Socialism.
What make you think Obama is pushing Socialism? Who will benefit from Solialism? Remember government does not generate any money. The only thing government does is spending wealth generated by people.
You won't support solialism if you make 100k/yr- so you totally understand people who achieve will pay. To me that means you support socialism because it can help you put your hand in other people's pocket to seize their money. After graduate you better don't work too hard, otherwise you money will be seized. I think the most evil and dangerous message Socialism is sending. Socialism is basically Capitalism without accountability.
I agree people get help to find a place to stay. They can ask for help for their friends, relatives, even charity. But I don't agree government handing them free cash. Government should not play charity. Again, government does not generate any wealth- only people who work do. That is money people earn by working hard. Ultimately, those people need to find their job, fight for their life quality, not seeking free cash from government, or threatening banks to give them cheap loans.
I don't agree government to spend out of the economic crisis. I think the solution is in Reagonomics- Using private sectors to generate real job opportunities. In Reagan era, 16 million jobs were created by reducing tax ONLY, no government spending. Obama spent 3.4 trillion to "create and maintain" 3 million jobs, and Biden said there is 30% chance of failure. Obama yesterday asked 1.5 billion to research swing flu vaccine. I saw on news that Taiwan is ready to do the same, and the cost is 1.5 million, maybe NTD. Government spending has never been efficient. So the less they spend, the better.
This is what we are on the same page: Education is a privilege. And I would likt to acknowledge your blog- very nice. In particular I like your pictures in Balloon show, that makes me excited. My only problem is you "Date Democrats Only". You sure you can't do better than that? Thanks for like my writing.. come back and see me often. 阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/04/30 13:13回覆
- 15樓.2009/04/29 05:14torture vs beheading
which one you would prefer? Beheading or torture?
I hope American know what they are doing on the next election!!very simplified.. but yeah. that's the deal.
阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/05/02 12:14回覆
- 14樓. 小點兒2009/04/29 00:04One more question
Do you think it is ok to use torture techniques and still criticize other countries for human rights abuse?假設回到2002年，你是布希總統，你的ＣＩＡ部下告訴你抓來的恐怖份子什麼都不說，要不要刑求看看？你打算同意，因為你的國家可能隨時有下一個911。這時，你會因為怕有人用人權問題來罵你而不做嗎？
It's "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques"，not "torture". The Liberal media term is designed only to make you mad.
I have questions for you too.. Appreciate if you can answer: Why do you support President Obama? What made you support him last year when you voted? What did he actually accomplish to make you think he is the more proper president candidate? I read your blog, in an article you said "now we can get something done". What exactly is that "something"? Do you think government should provide free healthcare to everyone? Do you think college tuition should be free? Do you support anyone who works hard should get a house for his/her American dream no matter how much he earns? Have you heard the word Marxism?
阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/04/29 11:08回覆
- 13樓. rt8882009/04/28 01:34只許州官放火的美國佬
阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/04/28 10:09回覆
- 12樓. 小點兒2009/04/28 00:05chill out!
Of course it is just a gut feeling. But what else can a politician do?
I have seen it done so many times. From local election to federal. It is annoying at its best.
All of this hooblah, it is just going to go away just like Gitmo is not an issue anymore. Where do you think they are going to store the prisoner's now that Gitmo is closing? Probably in another secure location. There are so many things that CIA do, that us as citizens don't even understand. Maybe I have watched way too many spy movies, but do you think that the torture techniques are going to go away?
That is not beneficial towards the country whatsoever.
They are just going to keep it as secret as possible.
所以那是你的推測，而此推測與你的感覺相符。謝謝回應。 阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/04/28 00:23回覆
- 11樓. 金刀2009/04/27 20:27回應您的第二個問題
阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/04/28 00:00回覆我在猜，我們這樣的對話，很可能就是七年前白宮裡發生的對話。雖然很多人不喜歡，布希總統大概是在做他該做的工作。如果真是這樣的話，布希政府唯一缺的，就是告訴大家你說的這段話，讓大家了解政府的苦心，取得民眾對政府行動的諒解，也可避免反對黨見縫插針。布希應該請你當白宮發言人。 阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/04/28 10:21回覆
- 10樓. auu2009/04/27 14:02人權應一致保障
美國人的屁股與恐怖份子的屁股是一樣的。美國人的屁股與恐怖份子的屁股當然一樣。可是三千個美國人的生命，跟幾個恐怖份子的屁股還是一樣嗎？如果是三千個台灣人呢？如果裡面還包括你關心的人呢？ 阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/04/27 23:44回覆
- 9樓. 小點兒2009/04/27 11:45Nah...
CIA is going to do what its going to do. I don't think the torture techniques are going away, it is just going to be kept under the radar. Politicians are going to openly condemn it for votes and votes only. But Obama is going to condemn it to change the perception that it has on the world. But it doesn't mean it is going away! It is just going to be kept under secret, no one knows.........
Nothing is going to change unless it really cause problems. Maybe I am naive, I don't know, but I think all of this CIA crap is just for show to the voters and to the international community.
你認為還會繼續刑求，證據在哪？那你是說歐巴馬只是在晃點我們？這是你自己猜的，你的感覺，還是你有什麼內線消息？要問清楚，這個茲事體大。“ＣＩＡ crap“？你怎麼確定ＣＩＡ的刑求一定是壞的？這跟過去七年的安全真的沒有關係？前副總統錢尼要求歐巴馬政府公佈更多ＣＩＡ 備忘錄，以說明刑求對美國安全有十分積極的效果，可是到目前沒有回應。這些資料你都沒看過，怎能知道刑求就是壞的，而且以後會不會用還知道？
阿卡迪亞斯基 於 2009/04/27 12:04回覆